Hello, Satoshi clubbers Another AMA took place in Satoshi Club and we would like to introduce to you the AMA session with our friends from Primex Finance and our guest was . The AMA took place on the 13th of June.
The AMA session was divided into 3 parts with a total crypto reward pool of $500
In this AMA Recap, we will try to summarise the most interesting points for you.
Part 1 — introduction and questions from the Telegram&WebSite
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Hello Satoshi Club! We are happy to announce our
AMA session with Primex Finance! Welcome to Satoshi Club
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
hello dear
Satoshi Club
Mary
| Satoshi Club
@avd_01
@dmitrytolok are our guests today
Welcome to
Satoshi Club guys
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
Hello guys!
Glad to be here!
Anton
Hi everyone,
I’m Anton, the product manager @ Primex.finance
Thanks for
having me here.
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Nice to
e-meet you guys ❤️🇺🇦
Mary
| Satoshi Club
We are
excited to see you here today, it’s not easy day for crypto, but as i see
you’re still here for tech
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
Yeah,
definitely not an easy day but it
doesn’t matter if you BUIDL
Mary
| Satoshi Club
For sure,
those who build will survive!
Let’s start
our AMA
And we will
start with introduction! Could you please introduce yourselves and tell us how
did you get involved into crypto?
Anton
Sure, let me
give a short intro
I’m Anton, the product manager @ Primex Finance, with a background in marketing and PR. Previously product manager @ Adoriasoft, blockchain software dev firm.
Dmitry is
leading BizDev @ primex.finance, previously he was running BizDev in fintech
firms and also has a background in banking.
We have been
working together for a few years before building Primex, and, given we’re big
DeFi enthusiasts we always wanted to build something totally decentralized
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Decentralised,
love this!
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
It’s
brilliant
Mary
| Satoshi Club
How long were
you working on Primex DeFi and what is your project about? How different are
you from another projects?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
Primex
started last summer as a concept and the actual development started around late
September when we secured the first private funding.
It depends
what you compare Primex with, if we compare it with lending protocols, then the
biggest difference is how liquidity is used. Primex combines the 2 biggest DeFi
use cases – lending and decentralized exchanges.
The key
difference from lending protocols is that borrowers (Traders) can only use the
liquidity for the one and only purpose – to trade on DEXs, it’s not transferred
to any external wallets of traders before the trade is closed, that’s why they
don’t have to overcollaterize the margin debt.
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
Essentially
Primex is a liquidity protocol on top of DEXs that allows margin trading
cross-dex in a truly decentralized way.
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Did you have
liquidations today?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
No, fortunately not, we’re in a testnet mode, so all good for our traders for now
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Ahaha, true
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Also we would
like to know more about your team. Who is on the project team core?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
Sure, we have
a team of almost 40 people at the moment and there are a few development
streams with respective teams attached to them: smart contracts, UI/UX,
infrastructure (keepers/notaries), mathematics of all the incentivization, and
buckets/token design. So we have different types of engineers/mathematicians on
the team, all are DeFi enthusiasts
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Is your team
anonymous?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
No, totally
not, moreover, we recently released a posting on our blog covering some of the
team members and their experiences.
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Great news
Thanks for
great introduction, we will have several questions selected for the Part 1.
Ready to start?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
Sure, go
ahead
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Q1 from Telegram user @Ivvanna_Cahya
In Primex finance. Along with the technology behind the tool, i learnt that there are five important roles that need to be filled to maintain functionality, which are Lenders,
Traders, Notaries, Delegators, and Liquidity providers. understanding that this are the five basic people that makes Primex Finance Functions. Can you tell us more about the roles of each of the positions mentioned? How can we leverage any of this available position to Maximize profit? I seem not to clearly understand the Functions of the Primex Notary, which is said to function In the offline world, & gives people and institutions confidence that documents are genuine. Can you kindly explain this role well?
Anton
That’s
correct. Lenders and Traders are the pillars allowing the protocol to function,
Lenders provide liquidity to credit buckets and Traders use that liquidity to
trade with margin on multiple decentralized exchanges that are integrated with
Primex. Lenders are incentivized by the interest rate and Traders have an
opportunity to trade in a truly decentralized way and without interacting with
centralized components.
To allow the
traders to happen, we also have a role of a Keeper in the system, which is
responsible for closing the trading positions when a certain price target is
reached or to make a liquidation. Since we have neither back-ends nor
centralized order books, we need to have someone to make a special transaction
to close the trading position, Keepers are doing this.
I assume that
you’re referring to the Trader notary in your last question.
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Really smart
idea
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Guys, as i
understand you’re totally decentralised and no one of members don’t need KYC
verification?
Anton
Trader notary
is an Ai-powered scoring mechanism that is a part of V2 of the protocol. It’s a
special type of notary responsible for scoring traders based on the onchain
data, we decided to skip the dKYC part of it, it’s only for scoring traders.
It’s also a decentralized component nominated by community.
We also have
community-nominated Credit Bucket Notaries that can introduce new credit
buckets (liquidity pools) to allow margin trading for more assets. Credit
Bucket Notaries are also staked and supported by community in a decentralized
way.
Mary
| Satoshi Club
And i want to
ask – do you have any countries restricted?
Anton
Right.
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
We would
refrain from the KYC aspect as much as we can as our goal is to make trading
accessible for everyone, regardless of their geographical location. We’re not a
centralized or semi-centralized infrastructure.
Mary
| Satoshi Club
And btw do
you use decentralised or centralised servers for your DeFi?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
Nope, we
don’t. We don’t host any back-ends or order books. The back-end function is
done by so-called Keepers in Primex, which are community-hosted instances
incentivized to make special transactions to close Trading positions. This is
how we’re different from some non-custodial derivative platforms in the space.
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Gotcha
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Thanks for
your great answers
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Thank you for
your answers! Ready to proceed?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
Sure!
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Q2 from Telegram user @UncleStrange1
Primex Finance is on a mission to improve the experience of trading assets on decentralized exchanges (DEXs). Traders can borrow funds below the liquidation price and maintain positions and each trader will be continuously scored based on their trading history to enable access to riskier credit Buckets. Can you provide more information on the process of how traders can borrow money? What are the requirements? Is there any form of verification process attached to it? What is the maximum amount a trader can borrow at the first time? How many times can a trader borrow money to stay in position after being liquidated? Can you tell us how many levels of Credit Buckets there are?
Anton
Sure, our
mission is to close the gap between lending and decentralized exchanges and
provide a truly decentralized infrastructure where Lenders and Traders can
exchange value.
As for the
Trading scoring mechanism, it’s a special type of decentralized notary in the
system that is scoring Traders based on their past performance using onchain
data. We do not plan to introduce any identity checks/KYC for traders on top of
this for now.
There will be
Credit Buckets available for all Traders, without specific requirements to the
score, so anyone can use them.
Traders with
high scores, though, will have an opportunity to open so-called underdeposited
positions, meaning that they still can keep the position open even if they drop
below the liquidation price to some extent. And in case of liquidation, they
can later repay the debt to the protocol later to restore the score.
Anton
It’s a great
feature we’re already working on but it won’t be present in v1, it’s on the
roadmap for v2. DeFi hasn’t solved the scoring problem so far so we’re taking
the challenge here. Such a scoring mechanism will provide more flexibility to
both, Lenders and Traders.
Credit
Buckets will be divided into several tiers based on the risk level, e.g. top 10
assets by liquidity on DEX, top 10-50, top 50-100 and custom buckets introduced
by the community (including those with the scoring requirement). Lenders than
will be able to diversify their risk by funding less and more risky buckets.
Mary
| Satoshi Club
What was the
most difficult to design (develop) in your DeFi? And what are you the most
proud for?
Lol, it seems
you partially answered before i asked
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
The most
difficult is to connect all the roles in the protocol and incentivize them so
that the infrastructure of the protocol is functioning smoothly. The Notaries
and Keepers are rather sophisticated as well as the mathematics related to how
interest is calculated etc.
As for the
Trader Notary – it’s a great experimental feature not really present in DeFi
yet.
We’re proud
to have really great progress so far, even though not everything is visible yet
except for some interfaces in our Alpha. The code and some hardcore mathematics
will be open-sourced a bit later, stay tuned!
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Sounds good!
Thanks for your great answers! Are you ready for the next question?
Anton
Sure
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Q3 from Telegram user @MudaraSilva
By locking funds for a specified time, lenders on Primex have the opportunity to fix their interest. I could not see any information about these tiers. Can you briefly explain about the interest rates for each time period? Does the rate depend on the time period or will the investment size also be calculated? I hope you offer better rates for longer time frames. When a lender choose a long period and wants to unlock his funds before the deadline, is he allowed to do so by paying an unlock fee? What are the charges/fees related to this feature? What is your anti-whale mechanism to prevent whales from investing their funds? How do you ensure the safety of locked funds? What will happen to them if Primex has to face any unforseen situation?
Anton
The fixed
interest rate is a part of v2 of the protocol and will not be present in v1
yet. V1 will have dynamic rates for Lenders.
We’re
designing the fixed rate to be based on the fees that Traders pay when having
their positions open over time, so we always have a constant flow of fees from
Traders that can be paid to Lenders willing to lock their liquidity for longer
periods of time to earn fixed interest. We will have cooldown periods so
Lenders will have to wait a little bit before they can withdraw the locked
funds.
The safety is
secured with smart contracts, there’s no centralized party controlling the
funds.
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Ok, what
about audit? Any thoughts about insurance? You know, no one can be 100% sure in
security and a lot of incidents in crypto show that it’s true
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
The code is
not yet frozen as we’re in our Alpha-Beta stage so we will likely have our
first audits in a couple of months from now, but be sure there will be a few
leading audit firms doing audits. We fully understand the importance of this
considering how many incidents there are in the space.
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Super
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Thank you for
your answers! Ready to jump to the next question?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
Sure!
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
thank you
very much for your answer and for your responsible attitude to this issue
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Q4 from Telegram User @Highpee
Even though Primex was launched in June 2021, it was in February 2022 that you did your seed funding with a successful raise of $5.7 million from your strategic investors. I am curious to know more about these seed investors and how they were able to make investment commitment into your project, since up till now, you have no token and no tokenomics has been officially released by you? How has this fund been utilised in the development of your project so far and why does it look like development is stuck in Primex Alpha Phase? When do you expect your token design to be out and when is IDO or other presale events scheduled to start?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
There were
certain delays in announcements as we raised funds a bit earlier than the
entire round was announced, so that kickstarted the development. Primex started
as an idea in Summer 2021 and then we started designing the protocol’s logic
and its architecture, the active development process began in late September 2021
when we received the first funding from our Lead investors.
The funding
is being used to cover the core development of the protocol, we’re definitely
not stuck with the Alpha as we just recently released it to collect some first
feedback from our community, the actual dev / token design is beyond Alpha now
and we are planning to release Beta in several weeks.
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Who are your
Lead investors? Can you name them?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
We’re working
on a big posting that covers token utility and tokenomics, it’s a very
important topic and we’d like to cover it in full within the few weeks, likely
closer to the Beta release, please follow our official medium
(https://blog.primex.finance/) and stay tuned for updates.
Sure
The round was
led by Stratos and Coinfund, we also have positions of GoldenTree (a large
traditional hedge fund) and a few big market makers such as Wintermute, GSR,
and Ledgeprime that also help us with the overall advice on protocol design
given their trading and market-making experience. The round was successful and
we were significantly oversubscribed.
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Ohhh, you
prevented my ‘wen token’ question
Congratulations it’s really big achievement!
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Thank you for
your answers! Ready to proceed?
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Famous and
influential names
Anton
Yeah
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Q5 from Telegram User @Dalboto22
Early contributors of will have access to Primex test versions and will be able to provide feedback on Primex functionality and interfaces. Thank you for these opportunities. What are the requirements to be considered an early contributor? What is the deadline to register on the platform? Is there a minimum amount of contribution? Generally, early birds receive tokens with a considerable discount. Does Primex offer that opportunity too? If I contribute later, can’t I join with the community and provide feedback? Is it mandatory to be an early bird to receive governance privileges?
Anton
There are
pretty much no requirements, anyone can test the platform and participate
early, all the feedback is helping us a lot as our goal is to build the
protocol and all the interfaces. There will definitely be interesting
opportunities for early community but we cannot announce them now.
The Early User program is now ongoing and you’re most welcome to participate — http://primex.finance/earlyuser
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Oh, it’s my
passion to try new platforms
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Satoshi
clubbers, test it please!
Mary
| Satoshi Club
When do you
plan to fully launch your platform?
Anton
We’re
planning to release V1 later this year or beginning of next year
Mary
| Satoshi Club
We will wait
and follow your updates
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
By the way,
share with us your roadmap
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
We are
planning to release a fully decentralized cross-dex Spot trading app with
different kinds of orders first and connect with a few DEXs on ETH mainnet
first. It will already be possible to split the trading position across
multiple DEXs depending on its size and the liquidity in the respective pair
and later we will release the Margin trading app after our liquidity mining
event. It will happen either later this year or beginning of next year.
After that,
we will be deploying on a few other EVM-compatible chains so there will be lots
of big updates.
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Thanks for
your great answers ready for the last
question of this part?
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
Sure
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Q6 from Telegram user @Cheriemike
I read that Primex plans to introduce two features in it platform they are “Under Deposited Trading Position” and “Under Collateralized Lending.So can you briefly summarize both features?Why did you decide to feature “Under Collateralized Lending” and not “Over Collateralized Lending”?.Which set of audience are both features meant for and what do both features especially Under Collateralized Lending comprises of?And will investors be able to access substantial credit without collateral with under-collateralized lending and how does “CREDIT DELEGATION” comes into play in the collateralized lending features?Please explain Thank
Dmitry
Tolok 🇺🇦
The key thing
is the funds can only be borrowed for a specific purpose – to make swaps on
DEXs, the funds are not transferred to external wallets of Traders and
therefore, should not be overcollateralized.
Traders use
Primex smart contracts to access liquidity to amplify their trading positions
using leverage on DEXs like Uniswap.
Traders also
do not collateralize their margin debt, they only lock their initial deposit
but if there’s a liquidation, the initial trader deposit will be taken back to
the Credit Bucket.
Underdeposited
means those trading positions with additional buffer to borrow funds and not be
liquidated, this is available for Traders with higher scores starting Primex
v2.
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Thank you for
detailed answers!
Guys, we came
close to the live part of our AMA session now! Do you feel the breath of storm?
It will be a storm of questions from our community
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Ready for
them?
Anton
Yes, let’s go
Gold
Rocket | Satoshi Club
Amazing first
part of AMA
Mary
| Satoshi Club
Let’s go
Part 2 — live questions from the Telegram community
Q1 from Telegram user @adaatalay
Does Primex have a native token? If yes, what are the use cases and its role in the ecosystem?
Dmitry Tolok 🇺🇦
For example, there will be multiple staking opportunities, including staking for all kinds of notaries and keepers that support the infrastructure as we have no centralized back-end that processes orders, etc.
The PMX is a governance token that will be needed to participate in votings for new notaries, introducing new credit buckets (liquidity pools), new digital assets, etc.
There will also be multiple incentives for traders, e.g. trading fee rebates if they stake PMX, etc. LPs and early Lenders will also be incentivized for providing liquidity.
Please follow our official medium for a larger, more detailed posting on tokenomics, we will definitely share it with everyone (https://blog.primex.finance/).
Q2 from Telegram user @Shiva_shivi
There are many Lending Platforms in the Crypto space?
How different is Primex’s Lending Platform?
What main Tools does the Platform provides?
Anton
As for the differences between Primex Finance and the other DeFi protocols, such as lending platforms, DEXs, DEX-aggregators, etc, we introduced the following components to the market:
Primex Credit Buckets. Credit bucket is a smart contract where Lenders provide liquidity and traders access that liquidity to fund their margin debt. You can find more information here: https://blog.primex.finance/an-introduction-to-primex-credit-buckets-e2678441dd67
Cross-DEX, cross-margin trading. We’re not limited to a specific DEX. In Primex traders can open leveraged positions across multiple DEXs and the position can be opened on one DEX and closed on another.
Decentralzied Keepers, for liquidation and executing positions (including limit orders, stop loss, take profit, etc)
AI-based trader scoring. Starting from V2 Traders will be continuously evaluated by a decentralized network of ML-based nodes. The scoring defines traders’ risk levels and available buckets. High-scoring traders can survive high volatility and save their positions even when they’re approaching the liquidation price. It’s totally new to the market.
Q3 from Telegram user @habibi_ve
What are the benefits and risks of lending money within Primex Finance vs. other lending protocols in the ecosystem?
Dmitry Tolok 🇺🇦
The benefits for Lenders are:
- multiple Buckets to lend to, which means diversification
- higher interest compared to other platforms, because of no-collateralization
Q4 from Telegram user @MdLuffyo
Do you have any instructional videos or training materials that show how the protocol works and enable them to understand the features of the interface so that Primex finance lenders and traders around the world can use and understand Primex?
Anton
Thanks for the question. Sure, we already have guides for our Alpha, it’s available here:
https://docs.primex.finance/guides/
Moreover, we’re publishing multiple materials explaining how the protocol works and covering the aspects of its interface. We are starting with some basic information, explaining the roles and how our credit buckets (liquidity pools) function, and will later be covering all the mathematics and advanced details of the protocol.
Early user feedback is especially important for us to improve the interface and make it as intuitive as possible.
Q5 from Telegram user @hana4544
Does the Primex Platform have the role and privileges of the Liquidity Provider? And how is it exceptionally rewarded?
Dmitry Tolok 🇺🇦
Yes sure, LPs is a separate role in the system that can provide multiple assets that can be rebalanced in the protocol depending on the demand for a specific asset. Since there’s a risk of impermanent loss for LPs, they are incentivized with PMX. This is how their reward structure is different from Lenders. Lenders only get interest in the assets they contributed.
Q6 from Telegram user @captainprice111
I understood that Primex finance is an EVM compatible cross-chain liquidity protocol. So which mainnet will Primex debut on first? Can you share with us the order on which networks Primex will be run?
Anton
That’s true! Primex Finance is an EVM-compatible cross-chain liquidity protocol, so we are following such networks as Moonbeam, Polygon, Arbitrum, Avalanche, ZK-sync, and how their communities develop and DEXs grow. Likely to launch in ETH mainnet first, the others are also on the roadmap. Stay tuned for updates!
Q7 from Telegram user @emmy066
Primex will be launched on the ETH mainnet as far as I understand. Why do you prefer the ETH chain when considering gas cost and speed? Will you support other cross-chain and blockchains?
Dmitry Tolok 🇺🇦
The main aspect is liquidity, we will need to connect with DEXs that have liquidity and ETH mainnet is leading so far, but we’re great fans of other EVM projects and ecosystems such as Moonbeam, Arbitrum, AVAX, and others, so we’re following those too.
We’re cross-chain and will be integrating with DEXs on multiple EVM chains over time.
Q8 from Telegram user @YRUSelling
You are using Ukraine flag with your name.
So I want know that are you from Ukraine? Whole team is from Ukraine?
Anton
80% of the Primex core team are Ukrainians. But the team is fully decentralized and we’re all over the world.
Q9 from Telegram user @eylulaydin93
I noticed you mentioned that there are a number of experimental features for v2 of the protocol that you need to test and get feedback on before going public, so how can we test these experimental features and what are these features? When do you plan to release the beta for V2 and how can we be notified?
Dmitry Tolok 🇺🇦
Yes, one of them is Trader Scoring with under deposited feature, another is dynamic Credit Buckets introduced by the community, Fixed interest as well.
Please follow our official Twitter: https://twitter.com/primex_official and medium for updates on our releases: https://blog.primex.finance/
Q10 from Telegram user @Raisbelys
You say that your protocol is not limited to a specific DEX, do you mean that your protocol works with several DEX? How is this possible? Who are you able to work with several DEX? What are the advantages of your multi DEX protocol? Have you thought about integrating DEX into your protocol?
Dmitry Tolok 🇺🇦
We integrate with multiple AMMs of multiple DEXs and the main advantage is that Traders can access more markets/liquidity in a decentralized way. Simply put, we achieve some level of market defragmentation that way.
From the tech standpoint, we make Primex credit buckets interact with AMMs of those DEXs. So it’s a soft of prime brokerage protocol on top of DEXs allowing using decentralized liquidity to margin trade.
Part 3 – Quiz Results
As usual, for the third part, Satoshi Club Team asked the chat 4 questions about the crypto project. A link to a Quiz form was sent into the chat.
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